Tuesday, February 12, 2008

I'm not Dutch!

It may soon be a rather bad time to be Dutch - or even blond and Dutch looking - in the Middle East. This has been going around the 'net for a while, (almost 2 weeks) but the response will probably make the Danish Cartoon issue seem trivial by comparison.

Geert Wilders, the Dutch leader of the PVV (a rather right wing) party, is supposedly about to publish a short video on the Quraan and Islaam, which he claims represents a fascist ideology, is not a tolerent or peaceful religion and that the Quraan 'should be banned'. Part of his purpose is to provoke the kind of violent reaction from Muslims to explicitly demonstrate his point that the underlying beliefs and their practice are fundamentally incompatable with Western (and especially Dutch) secular culture, freedom of sppech, and the principal of seperation of Church and State. He's already got 24/7 protection against all sort of death threats, so it won't make a big change to his lifestyle. But if you're Dutch and in a Muslim country, it may change yours!

In the case of Oman, any Dutch readers may wish to purchase key Dutch products they are particularly attracted to now, as it may be some time before they are back on the shelves! Also, if you need to visit the Dutch embassy, do it quick. The Dutch embassies around the world have already been put on alert.

Below is Geert telling his side on Fox News. One indication of his stance is that even Fox seems to find it pretty extreme. And that's saying something!

He essentially touches on issues that have been commented on in many blogs (including this one) about the implications of free speech, secularism and its problem with extremist Islam, political correctness, and what seems to be a firm commitment to religiously motivated violence on the part of many, including people who seem otherwise intelligent, peace loving and kind (but yet are firm belivers that 'mere' insults should be met with assassination).

You can read some right wing Euro-paper comment on his video here
Here's the link from Youtube with the interview with Geert. Caution: just watching this interview may be considered illegal in some countries. Follow the link at your own risk. If you are Muslim, you will find even this interview highly insulting. Don't blame me if you get offended.



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4 comments:

  1. Because I am from the west I have a hard time understanding why criticism of a religion is such a serious matter.
    In the west we can mock our religion, our political leaders, our royal family, our culture. Nothing is off limits.
    This leads to a more open society where the abuses by religious and political leaders are often exposed.
    Once you make something beyond reproach...bad people begin to take over and use it for their own agenda.
    In Thailand, for example, the King is beyond criticism. He is almost worshiped as a god. Result. Every time powerful figures want to take over the government in a coup, they enlist the support of the monarchy so people cannot criticize them for their anti democratic actions.
    It's sad because Thailand averages 1 coup every 3 years since becoming a democracy over 60 years ago.

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  2. All well and good, we have "freedom of speech", so we continue to kid ourselves in the West. One could debate that... Anyway how is this man going to present a cohesive, coherent argument in a ten minute film??? This interview is longer!!! The Koran is a very complicated book, with many different issues and what about the issue of immigration into Europe, why it is happening etc?? The subject matter is huge and would take a documentary with many parts to discuss intelligently.
    How convenient that he and the like can blame everything on a particular group of people, therefore letting themselves and their failing system off the hook...

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  3. All well and good, we have "freedom of speech", so we continue to kid ourselves in the West. One could debate that... Anyway, how is this man going to present a cohesive, coherent argument in a ten minute film??? This interview is longer!! The Koran is a very complicated book, with many different issues and what about the issue of immigration into Europe, why it is happening etc?? The subject matter is huge and would take a documentary with many parts to discuss intelligently.
    How convenient that he and the like can blame everything on a particular group of people, therefore letting themselves and their failing system off the the hook...
    That is what has happened in various parts of the world and still happens. One group is singled out as the cause of all ills and genocide has been known to take place.

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  4. Anon1 - I agree, openness and freedom of speech is one of the core values and freedoms we have in the west. This guy pushes the edges though.

    Its a common limitation of free speech that shouting fire in a crowded theater is not acceptable. This comes mighty close to that.

    Anon2: why is he doing it? For votes, and to trigger a crisis in Holland that he thinks will show how the Muslim immigrants are not on board with the idea of free speech and Dutch Values.

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