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Riots & multiple Arson attempts in Omani high schoolsUndercover Dragonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10577931944980469254noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-65687611599137265132012-05-16T15:00:57.745+04:002012-05-16T15:00:57.745+04:00I know a person who taught as a teacher in one of ...I know a person who taught as a teacher in one of the Omani Schools.To put it bluntly her experience of the Omani system led her to question what was even education.Literacy was one thing, education is another.<br /><br />Her main complaint was that the parents were too overpowering and didn't like the fact that the teachers were correcting their children.Coming late to school was acceptable,not doing homework as well as absenteeism.<br /><br />This teacher got yelled many times by the parents because a child complained that the teacher scolded a child for not paying attention and doing his homework.Her main job, instead of teaching , became babysitting.The children dont like to study nor are they corrected by their parents that studies are important.<br /><br />The parents are very much to blame since they create a culture of laziness amongst the youth.Going to school is merely an exercise wherein the students will pass regardless of not studying or just reading the title of the topic.The schools were only a place to socialize and not study.<br /><br />All this isn't determined by the teacher.It is not that the teaching standards are low.That is a very big misconception.The teachers ARE MADE to do this by the management and in turn by the parents.The teachers must follow orders given by the management.They have no say.They MUST pass the students, no questions asked.Otherwise they are terminated from their posts.<br /><br />Indian teachers can teach, I can say that for certain or else the Indian schools wouldn't have been churning out merit holders and the Indian education system is very very competitive and out of the league compared to the Omani System.Studies are placed at a premium in the Indian society.<br /><br />Omani parents must look into the studies of the child and provide the impetus for learning.It can't be just the teacher.<br /><br />Unless the Omani School management and in turn the system reforms the education system and puts emphasis on hard work the working population will be useless.<br /><br />The culture of entitlement, privileges and not doing 'lowly' jobs by the Omanis will be a huge problem once the oil runs out.<br /><br />In other countries, people work very very hard to build a nation,be it China,India,UK,US.<br /><br />Oman needs instil hard work,no nonsense,'I will do any job' ethic to its citizens so that its workforce can become productive in the future,especially when the fields run dry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-21365620037333834162012-05-03T08:16:22.899+04:002012-05-03T08:16:22.899+04:00That would be fine if these kids were getting an e...That would be fine if these kids were getting an education to prepare them for white collar jobs, but they are not. India provides both the brains and the muscles of the Omani work force. Show some gradtitude and humility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-58119499450161678552012-04-09T22:27:34.970+04:002012-04-09T22:27:34.970+04:00Well, who are the ones picking fruits or cleaning ...Well, who are the ones picking fruits or cleaning restrooms in the US, are they Caucasians (almost never) or Mexicans?<br />Fact is you cannot expect an Omani or any Khaleeji for that matter to be happy doing a lowly job like a Bengladishi or Indian. People are accustomed to different standards of living and jobs, so if someone wants to do a certain level of job in his on country, if i may add, he has every right to do so. <br />Till then let gardening and cleaning jobs be done by those used to it, and often, happy to do it. After all, God created different nations with different types of people and it is naive to believe everyone is equal.Salemnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-68004731536458064512012-03-29T19:15:24.969+04:002012-03-29T19:15:24.969+04:00It is a culture of entitlement here and hard work ...It is a culture of entitlement here and hard work with the more menial of tasks is often considered "below themselves" by many Omani's. I'll give an example - i offered to an Omani close by to my house whether any of his son's wanted to make some RO by cleaning up around my yard once a week, watering garden etc... reply was "no way that's for expat Indians, not for us Omani's to do". Point is, the youth don't know any different to what they have grown up with - it's the elder Omani's that are absolutely at fault where the entitlement to not do menial tasks has been engrained here. In the end I paid a Bangladeshi guy, who knew what hard work was and was happy to receive almost a month's wages for twice a week of work at my place. Grow up Oman, you have a long way to go before you become self-sufficient with your labour force.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-48995211175101510992012-03-18T12:52:13.375+04:002012-03-18T12:52:13.375+04:00It's an awful disaster about the education in ...It's an awful disaster about the education in Oman. I believe that it's intend that way on purpose to promote the private schools. Who is the owner of these private schools?! It is going to affect the future of Oman very badly, that they choose to collect money instead of developing intelligent minds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-30002379801985147652012-03-07T21:01:40.915+04:002012-03-07T21:01:40.915+04:00Outsourcing your rage and protest to cheap labour....Outsourcing your rage and protest to cheap labour...you know, that is actually quite inspired really. <br /><br />With regards to my analogy, I suspect you are correct, however I wouldn't want to speculate on the efficiency of this training process. I think the net loss of experience is the problem here, I know a couple guys who have had to train their replacement in relatively short space of time before their contracts were due to be not renewed. Knowledge is one thing, experience is a little more fickle. <br />I'm no expert on this matter so am possibly asking for a flaming here, but I wonder if one of the results of this experience drain is the short term management of the wells, push them to hard for a while and then wreck them...less beam pumps and more ESP's? That's bound to help the situation.<br /><br />An even bigger worry isn't actually Oman itself...its what the rest of this region will look like when Oil stops being the numero-uno global commodity. This could turn out to be an interesting neighborhood..."You want to go to Muscat for a Holiday?...cool, where is it?...Border of Yemen and Saudi you say? <br /><br />Ah yes, tourism...about that...The Englishmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-51192673306442808522012-03-07T09:28:04.893+04:002012-03-07T09:28:04.893+04:00"Makes for some cool stories though. Here'..."Makes for some cool stories though. Here's a a story I'll take with me....."<br /><br />How about another story, that after a few days of sitting on the roundabout protesting, many Omanis paid Pakistanis to wear dish-dashas and sit there pretending to be protestors!<br /><br />As someone in the oil industry, let me say that '...its just oil, pumped out of the ground by expatriates who earn nice salaries and get a suntan then go home and retire in the country of their choice....' is an ageing analogy of the current status of the oil industry. Sure, there are expats at the top of the strata, but they are increasingly being replaced by Omanis, many of them very good because the oil companies have spent a lot of money training and retaining these guys. As you say though, by the time the industry is self-sufficient they will be sucking fumes out of the sand and will all need to be retrained as tour-guides for this incredibly well positioned tourism industry that is going to bring untold wealth to a country that treats it's natural resources like a fucking garbage dump.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-28141242895151766902012-03-07T01:39:22.064+04:002012-03-07T01:39:22.064+04:00word on the street is that bombs were used in 2 ca...word on the street is that bombs were used in 2 cases...wonder if that's true.Andrew Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18153878010708874871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-35056301422616656862012-03-07T00:27:58.045+04:002012-03-07T00:27:58.045+04:00Culture of entitlement...that's whats wrong he...Culture of entitlement...that's whats wrong here, the poor education system is merely a symptom, although its a very serious one.<br /><br />I think it was Aziza who mentioned earlier, and I quote..<br /><br />"And no we dont want US style system where if you dont have a job you end up on the street and if you cannot afford a medical insurance you die on the street"<br /><br />Well that's all very wonderful, however, living in a world of safety nets that support society means that society must share equally and actually work. Hard. lets face it, sharing and working hardly form the backbone of this country. By the way...by sharing I don't mean that Omani's are unkind, I'm talking about the wealth gap that exists here, wealth doesn't flow down...it flows around certain social strata...take a drive into the interior of this place and see for yourself. You don't have to go very far.<br /><br />Problem is, that wealth isn't the wealth of of the nation...its just oil, pumped out of the ground by expatriates who earn nice salaries and get a suntan then go home and retire in the country of their choice when the oil runs out and fondly remembers Oman as a fun but ultimately screwed up part of the middle east. Makes for some cool stories though. Here's a a story I'll take with me, during the Sohar riots, a couple of young and "desperate" Omani's blockaded the main road...parked their cars across it...one of them was a Mustang. All I could think to myself was: <br />"Dude, you are unemployed and you drive a Mustang....you have lost any social right to protest your situation the moment you started that V8 up...I'm sorry"<br /><br />This now brings us back to education, Oman needs to learn what hard work is, that reward comes after hard work....that sometimes you will work hard and still fail, that you need to get up and try again. The nation as a whole has to work at it,face up the fact that its in a crises...the government, teachers AND STUDENTS need to take responsibility. I get the feeling that each one is waiting for the other to do something and both blame the third. <br /><br />Time is ticking, you probably have about a generation left...by the time the kids being born today are reaching the peak of their economic strength and earning power, oil will not be viable in Oman, probably not even in the middle east.<br /><br />Think about that.The Englishmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-78492870781785219722012-03-06T13:47:52.032+04:002012-03-06T13:47:52.032+04:00Gay's, gay's gay's. Gay folk are every...Gay's, gay's gay's. Gay folk are everywhere. UK, Germany, Oman, Saudi etc., etc. leave 'em alone. If left alone gay's cause no harm, and DO add plenty to society in general. Its only when what comes naturally gets 'buried' (and gays are natural), in society that life starts to get get f*cked up - as in Oman as it moves more to a sterner pan-Arab (Wahhabi?) mindset. Hitler? More than likely a closet gay (hence his issues), and I seem to recall that the German's tried to wipe out all er, umm, miscreants... No? "Germans f*ck you"? Yeah, tell the Greeks. And by the way I am not gay, but if I was I would vigorously demand my human rights - more especially if I was Arab. Just as I do in demanding my secular humanist rights. <br /><br />If Oman had the courage to stick with is PROGRESSIVE Ibadhi culture it could help dig the Middle East out of its ultimate (current) fundi dead-end. There is much to be admired in Omani culture, but the wastafarian gangsters are killing it for their own ill-gotten and ill-mannered aims. <br /><br />Transparency in Oman? Probably impossible, and the trickle-down to matters of education discipline and standards are a very, very clear sign of this. <br /><br />Within education in the UK and the US it has (in-part) become 'cool' to be thick, and especially so within the dafter Art's subjects. In Oman it has sadly become cool to cheat.<br /><br />Willie D.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-68750003313718281442012-03-06T10:24:21.900+04:002012-03-06T10:24:21.900+04:00A good thing Hitler wasn't obsessed with gays....A good thing Hitler wasn't obsessed with gays. <br /><br />Please remove your socks when putting your sandals on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-28165014857214138112012-03-05T21:34:57.728+04:002012-03-05T21:34:57.728+04:00British and obsession with gays !
Germans fuck you...British and obsession with gays !<br />Germans fuck you and laugh all the way to the bank in every way of life!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-34951507099806181682012-03-05T11:24:18.403+04:002012-03-05T11:24:18.403+04:00hahaha. I always like a good laugh. Thank you!
Qu...hahaha. I always like a good laugh. Thank you!<br /><br />Quote of the day:<br />I cannot teach anybody anything, I can only make them think. - Socrates<br /><br />hahahaha. I have tears in my eyes.Pinky and The Brainnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-32273080859400337052012-03-04T16:20:02.266+04:002012-03-04T16:20:02.266+04:00No worries mate- plenty of expat shirt-lifters her...No worries mate- plenty of expat shirt-lifters here too, earning tax-free cash with some bonk, bonk dearie too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-63059866330999753812012-03-04T15:32:33.129+04:002012-03-04T15:32:33.129+04:00"All a bit camp that, but camp's good eh?..."All a bit camp that, but camp's good eh? ...Bonk, bonk, bonk. It is Oman after all. Shirt-lifters everywhere dearie. Oh my, what's a lad to do?"<br /><br />Ha!<br /><br />Oman is essentially pointless except for giving expats a place to earn some good tax free cash while laughing at the locals in all their idiocy.<br /><br />Love it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-53187861506426529882012-03-04T11:32:54.883+04:002012-03-04T11:32:54.883+04:00ROFL!!!!
I thought reading UD's blog posts wa...ROFL!!!!<br /><br />I thought reading UD's blog posts was entertaining. Who was to expect the comments... priceless!Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14476309329214857158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-83447247650417196302012-03-04T11:24:20.891+04:002012-03-04T11:24:20.891+04:00Let me rephrase the last sentence:
How many of th...Let me rephrase the last sentence:<br /><br />How many of the well-educated and smart guys that people are turning to for leadership were educated in Oman? I suspect the number is inversely related to the number of the establishment who did come through the Oman school system when it was in it's genesis.Lover, Lovernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-47005676786205483712012-03-04T11:21:05.622+04:002012-03-04T11:21:05.622+04:00In my first paragraph I meant that they would feel...In my first paragraph I meant that they would feel at home there. I have nothing to base it on except the articles I read in the local papers, but the Indian schools here seem to be of a pretty good standard.<br />Many Omanis complain of the relatively poor education of many of the countries influencers- not necessarily just the Ministers. I get the feeling that many of the young and ambitious are waiting for many of them to be moved sideways, retired or replaced with people who are more tuned to the needs of the country and those of her people.<br />As with so many anonymous posts on an internet forum, it often seems that one size fits all when comments are made and that a large brush is being used for all, but in this case that is not what I was trying to imply. Of course there are some well educated and smart guys running the country, but how many of them got educated here and how many of the old-school were?Lover, Lovernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-26523952553641802912012-03-04T10:13:41.890+04:002012-03-04T10:13:41.890+04:00In reply to the first paragraph of your reply -
A...In reply to the first paragraph of your reply -<br /><br />Are we talking about getting good education or about becoming Indians, or learning the language?<br /><br />My point in saying "Put them in Indian Schools" was so that they know the level of education, the toughness in curriculum and so on.<br /><br />What sources of yours say that the people running the country currently "have little or no education?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-80715491931434454192012-03-04T00:19:09.908+04:002012-03-04T00:19:09.908+04:00as an indian who's run away form his country b...as an indian who's run away form his country because he can't find a decent job, YOU have a lot of guts talking to US OMANIS like this. I am an omani teacher and my competition is an indian with 35 teaching qualifications behind his name, and no personality. he gets hired because he accepts his value at 400 rials, and hence come here, to feed his family and steal jobs from qualified productive omanis. and our students are failing not only because of indian teachers who lack the good will to transfer their skills to their students, but because of other nationalities with the same demeaning qualities, who are here for the weather, or to run away from their homes. A decent expat is someone who gives back to the community in those 8 hours he is paid to work, not look down, sneer on and patronize the local workforce. I have met expats who have been sincere in their employment and genuine with their staff, indians included. they obviously were much better people than you are, and clearly much more educated and professional. you my friend seem to suffer from an identity crisis... so please respect yourself, because obviously you are not one of those great indians who made it into nasa, and even if you were, you would end up compromising their missions due to the chutni masala smell oozing from your pores. respect yourself, or go back to your country and live on the streets.rasharashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05538099284409134018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-31772987495223163652012-03-03T22:18:27.331+04:002012-03-03T22:18:27.331+04:00Most Omanis are only a few generations away from b...Most Omanis are only a few generations away from being Indian anyway, as shown by their fluency in Hindi whilst demeaning one of their drivers, or houseboys, or cooks, or fluffer, or any other member of their staff- at home or at work.<br /><br />I would put forward that many of the students resorted to their actions because no-one would listen to their grievances due to the massive disconnect between this generation and the generation that is running the country. And unfortunately many of the guys running the country have little or no education and in this culture you honour your elders and don't question them.....at least it used to be, and that is just one of the changes that the country is late to see coming.<br /><br />Just like Dubai did when it fell to it's knees a few years back, Oman needs to press the reset button, cull the herd and start again wiser, stronger and more purposefully.Lover, Lovernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-27942857785759023882012-03-03T20:04:18.233+04:002012-03-03T20:04:18.233+04:00Oh please, spare me and Aziza your unwarranted pit...Oh please, spare me and Aziza your unwarranted pity. India does have issues with overpopulation and a lot of Indians come to Oman, or the UAE or any other Arab country. The majority of them are not qualified or educated and you completely ignore this. I leave it at that. <br />Yet you go so far as to say that Aziza was taught in a local school that doesn't "teach you how to respect humanity". Yet Aziza's use of English in comparison to yours is much more sophisticated as well readable. Seeing as you use "ur" instead of ur, you don't capitalize your "i" and say "u" instead of you. Lets spell check before we criticize others shall we? <br />So I pity your generalization, because I have met many expats and Omani's who have the utmost respect for humanity even though they went to a local school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-19636415966528560122012-03-03T08:35:53.708+04:002012-03-03T08:35:53.708+04:00Put them in Indian Schools!Put them in Indian Schools!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-46162855382228023992012-03-02T00:47:51.769+04:002012-03-02T00:47:51.769+04:00Having lived in Oman till a few years back, I was ...Having lived in Oman till a few years back, I was struck by the deceptively idyllic nature of the country. It was quite obvious that under the cloak of calm, lay deep rooted social problems - that of personal indebtness and that of poor employability. The latter clearly a result of a very undemanding and tolerant school system wherein the only requirement to pass out seemed to be the ability to bully the school into not failing anybody. After all failing an Omani child tantamounted to denying him his basic right to learn! Well the chickens are coming home to roost. <br /><br />I do hope that a radical overhaul of the education system is brought about because that is the only, repeat only, way that can bring order to Omani society.....otherwise the increasing social tension will tear society apart.<br /><br />Everything else that you see around you, especially expats working in your country, are merely symptoms and not the cause of your problems.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6283845125208268798.post-74696535369684847362012-03-01T09:25:16.367+04:002012-03-01T09:25:16.367+04:00exactly rightexactly rightAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com